T^dress^By Earl Baldwin of Bewdle New York Times, August 17,1939. and Other Speakers at Forum Dinner — • — i =rj -— , - ¦¦ -—j ¦ ' ^-^~^..lZX\ rests; on-Sim; -;The machine to of-;' I me but it fills me with admlra- me, to a far broader and more dlf- The tost of the address of Barll "cult one than ours. Politically, Baldwin of Bewdley, former Prime'you .hftVe ft written Constitution, im congress on Education for De- did all that human skill could de- mocracy, dhd digest* of the ad- vise to protect you from the— dresses of Winthrop W. Aldrtoh and shall we say—abuse of power by a. Louis J. Taber follow: By Earl Baldwin There Is ono* thing our peoples —yours and mine—have in com- mon: freedom in the air we breathe, freedom is In our blood and bones: the independence of the human spirit. But we are so used to It, that if we ever think of it at all, we think It has dropped Into our laps like manna from the skies, and unless we go a little beneath the surface in our questioning, we may feel that wo enjoy this freedom because we are better than other people, and therefore more worthy of It. Indeed, we may give an Impres- sion to the world of that compla- cent self-righteousness which is said to be one of our most offen- sive and irritating characteris- tics. The truth Is that the vast ma- jority of our peoples have forgot- ten that this freedom was bought with a great price; that It was obtained by the struggles of gen- erations of those who went be- fore us, by mental wrestlings, by endurance of persecution, by successive failures and triumphs, and we have entered Into their labors, the labors of men far bettor than ourselves. And If we j realize this, how can we Imagine that what has been won at such a price can be maintained with- out effort and at no cost to our- selves? Can the lamp by the light Of which our ancestors trod [ their upward path still show us the way- unless we keep it trimmed and bright when it Is ! handed to us? Some such I thoughts as these haves.been in our minds In Europe since the Great War, and if they were not I in many minds in America, you would never have called this great convention before, which I have the honor of speaking. Questions for the Democracies Now the questions whioh you are putting to yourselves are ques- tions which are being asked In . the great democracies of the world, and an answer must be found. Have we fallen short of our Ideals? What are our ideals?. Is democracy safe in the world? What perils face democracy, with- in and without? The peril today from without to plain for the world to see. In Europe It may be a challenge to the death. But perils from within are common to us all. As I said in Toronto only the other day: "Ideas are on the wing," and ideas may be a great- er peril to democracy than the sword. Only a democracy healthy tbody and In every limb can be nune to that .infection. You and I are probably at one In our Ideals, but our problems are dif- ferent, and the difference to due to certain obvious factors. You live in a vast country; I live In a i very small one. Our population Is homogeneous—living In an .Island, we have welded the dif- ferent peoples who invaded us • Into a compact whole, and we have had .hundreds of years In which to do this, with no fresh mixture of alien blood. 1 You are still In process of ab- sorbing millions of your people and of making them Into good Americans* people to whom free- dom was but a name when they first landed on your shores. Our Industrial population, wherever It may be concentrated in Great Britain, can be reached at any point In a few hours at the most. Yourjproblem, It scorns to temporary majority; we are de-" - pendent on that spirit of give and take, of moderation that to char- ; acteristlo of our people'. But If • they lose that, if a party majority were ever to play with the idea of forcing on the country their will before the country as a whole ap- proved of that will, we might find ourselves near to revolution more quickly than you would, Urges Work for Same Ends These are a few of the obvious differences of environment and circumstances between us, and the more clearly we perceive them the less we shall be disposed to criticize and advise each other. Let us recognize that we both have a great part to play, and get on eaoh with our own Job at home, each convinced of the warm sym- pathy of the other, working for the same great ends, but not nec- essarily on the same lines. And I have come over to speak to you tonight because I was Invited by a representative body of Ameri- cans who were good enough to' think that I might say something to be of help to you at the pres- ent time. And I think I can help this great conference best not by offering advice, for which I am not qualified and which. Indeed, j would be an impertinence, but by , telling you something of my own experience during the years when I was called upon to guide the destinies of a great democracy through that difficult and critical i period Immediately following the j war. j- Difficult as our problems are, there are many things In com- mon, and the story may give you lines of thought which may be useful to you in adapting them to your own purpose. As the world is today* great events In one con- tinent have their repercussions in another; no one can live out his life in a walled garden. In a short address on a subject on which volumes might be written i I may at times sound didactic: that you must forgive. It Is the last thing I wish to be, but I have not time In which to qualify and say with each statement "It seems to me." I speak fpr no one but myself;, my public work to fin- ished. Now It was quite clear in Eu- rope that after the war we were in a new world. The men at the helm of the various countries were soiling Into uncharted seas, and seas not free from fog. Text- books were of no use: history had to be Written as we went along. It was obvious that Industrial his- tory would be written at a speed never approached in its century- old evolution. Democracy Itself and government had Indeed be- come, the "great adventure." Talked Democracy for 15 Years I I tried with many others 'at east to prepare the way for the I hew age, And I talked to the peo- iloiabout democracy for fifteen years without pause. It was an (attempt at that education of de- mocracy, to forward which Is now 'the object of great associations formed of men from all parties on both sides of the Atlantic. No student of history can have any doubt but that democracy to far the most difficult form of govern- ment that has ever existed. In a totalitarian State the citizen- has only to do as he Is told; he has Hot to think, to make a choice; no direct responsibility; rests on turn. .The machine to ef- fective so long as he obeys. The success of a democracy depends upon every one realizing his or her responsibility to It; thinking of his duties and forgetting for a time his rights. If he recognizes no duties toward the form of gov- ernment to which he to ready enough to pay lip service and to shout for, the day'may come •when he will lose his rights by* dangers from without or within. That calls for education and char- acter; education in problems do- mestic and* foreign so as to have material wherewith to form a Judgment, and character to con- centrate on the essential and to look beyond the Immediate effect of particular action on the for- tunes of a favorite politician, A democrat should work for and be prepared to die for his demo- cratic Ideals, as the Nazis and Communists are for theirs. And he will never work for It, much less die for it, unless he is con- vinced that democracy Is capable of making a country worthy of his ideals, and If that democrat be of British stock, making a country worthy of his spiritual ideals. He may not recognize easily those ideals; he certainly cannot easily express them, but the Bible reading of his ancestors has left so deep a mark upon him that subconsciously he can never embrace a cause thai grips his whole being unless he feels in his bones that it Is morally right. Believing this, I would always stress the spiritual rather than the political foundations of de- mocracy. It to a recognition of the dignity of man and of his in- dividuality, and that dignity and individuality are his as a child of God. There Is the unbridgeable gulf between the democracy and the isms that are for the time being In control of so large a part of Europe. If that be our conviction, with' what different eyes we regard our work! Each Individual man becomes a human soul with his life to live, and you feel that no work to too hard, no drudgery too dull, If you can do your little bit to make your coun- try a place In which the environ- ment will help him to that end. Differences and honest differ* ences as to how that end to to be accomplished there will be, but with the common purpose there should be a deep national unity. That to a unity of divine purpose, springing from the people them- selves, not imposed, and there- fore In time of strain infinitely more binding. The Recognition of Duty People thus inspired will be more disposed totrecognlze their duties. Every free human Insti- tution, If- it is to be preserved, needs Its watch dogs, and no in- stitution more than a democratic government, and the people must realize that their responsibility under a representative system is the choice of candidates and the honor of their representa- tives. And for the maintenance of that honor there must be a con- tinuing Interest and unsleeping vigilance on the part of the elec- tors. There should be no higher honor than to be a representa- tive of the people; it should be a legitimate object of ambition to the best men in the country, and the position of such men should be respected by the community. Are these things beyond us? I have often thought many of us aro apt -to underrate the quality of the ordinary man. Two things have impressed themselves on me as the result of my own experi- ence as a political -leader. One to the extraordinary Instinct of our people to see clearly and to make up their minds quickly and surely on a critical Issue. I have seen It many times. It does not surprise me but Jt fills me with admira- tion. It makes a man proud to work for sfrohra people. The sec- ond thing is their openness to ap- peals on the highest grounds. There are some politicians, as there are some newspaper men, who have a contempt for the ordinary man and think that any garbage Is good enough for him. The politician may draw cheers; the newspaper man may make money, but power and influence they-will never get by such means. The ordinary man In the main wants to do the right thing, and If the politician doesn't be- lieve that, he to himself one of the greatest obstacles to the suc- cessful working of the democratlo system.-'" Now I spoke a few minutes ago of the perils that face democracy from without and within. These perils are real; they are at our doors. Of these things I have been speaking at home since the early years after the war; I have never addressed an American au- dience; probably none of you have read anything I have said, so I have no need to apologize to you for going over some of the ground I have so often covered at home. Ideas are on the wing. Science has brought the nations of the world jostling together and Ideas laugh at boundaries. And there are ideas so loaded with dynamite that they may blow systems that appear founded on a rock Into fragments. I need not tell you that such Ideas are those of Bol- shevism and those propagated by the Nazis and Fascists. No one can foresee what effect they may have on the future of the world; how far they may spread; what their ultimate form may be. But of one thing be clear, they cannot exist within the same boundaries as what you and I understand as democracy. Under such systems there may be good things. The good things should be equally attainable by us. Totalitarian Price Too High But In totalitarian practice the attainment of what is good to achieved by paying a price we cannot pay. The triumph of these ideas is bought by the suppression of the liberty of the individual human soul, the very life and spirit of the ideas upon which our conception of democracy to based. The Bolsheviks, whose original leaders were men of great though \ narrow Intellectual power saw clearly that the greatest obstacle to the enslaving of the human will was the Christian faith, made that faith the object of their bit- terest attack from the first. Only by the elimination of a power which in the human heart they knew 'to'.bp greater than their own could they create a genera- tion malleable to their Influence. And It is a terrible thing that In the extreme Nazi teaching you see this tendency In Germany to- day. ' • * Now these things may seem far from us. But he would be a bold - man who would say that they aro not perils without which may be- come perils within. Whether this happens depends on ourselves. As far as my own country Is con- cerned, I think the worst danger • from Communist propaganda Is. over. I will say something of that ¦ and then consider the danger of the Nazi and Fascist ideologies. Even before the war certain : Ideas well known in Communist propaganda were spreading in England. It was believed by many that, force could win what argu- ments would fail to do, and the industrial workers began to ex- periment with the big strike, that a] 1 I*, a atrlkfl covering a whole inT dustry. and the bigger strike cov- ering more than one, with a dis- tant object In view, that is, the general strike, by which a whole nation might; be brought to Its kneed to concede whatever de- mands might be made on the part of, one or more of the great branches of Industry. But before these things had gone far the great war broke out, and for four years we were fighting as one man for our lives. Into those four years, as I have often said, were packed fifty years of political evolution, and when, with the advent, of full manhood suffrage, we began to pick up the threads of our old life. I knew that we were In a new world, and my wonder was whether we could advance by.ordorly progression or whether we should dash our heads against a stone wall, for our evo- lution might prove to have ad- vanced too far beyond our edu- cation. It was obvious that great changes were at hand in the in- dustrial system; as I said before, we were in an uncharted sea; we had no precedent to guide us; no one knew whither we were going. The spirit In the country was bit- ter, and the strain of these four years had left its mark on all the country's leaders, politicians and trade union leaders alike. Need for Change of Spirit Seen Many of us felt that what was wanted was a change of spirit; that a national unity was essen- tial—essential to face our prob- lems at home and to meet what- ever might be in store for us in that post-war world. And it was | clear to many of us that force . was no good and that if our coun- ; try was to be Immune against the . germs of alien ideas, that could only be achieved by trying to make our people play their part In making that country one bet- j tor worth living in; by making life more tolerable, by better , housing, better conditions of labor, and In short, to work in : the spirit that all classes should realize the brotherhood of man, and not in the grudging spirit that has political expediency for Its motive power. But we had to pass through a ' period of very grave Industrial unrest which culminated in the now historic general strike. I • had held the view-before the war that a general strike was bound to come, and after the war it was obvious that the great experiment would be tried at the first conven- ient opportunity. I' was talking with an old House of Commons friend of mine a few months ago, himself a miners' leader in his own area, and I was relieved to hear him say that the general strike was inevitable. It was Inevitable, and I think nothing was more typical of our people than the reaction when tho danger was past- The people as a whole realized that any gen- oral strike is a challenge to their own freely elected government, and their political sense showed them where that might lead them and the industrial world, both, sides—employers and employed— realized that they had stood for a moment on the brink of an abyss, and at the bottom of that abyss was anarchy. And they .didn't like it. There was much thinking done. There, were wild men on both sides, survivals, I like to think, of an age that is passing If not past. But the wiser man won, and after that year, I re- joiced to see slowly growing, a different outlook and a different spirit in industry- The remark- able progress that has been made recently in the matter of holidays with pay has been achieved In my view oy th* close cooperation of men from both sides who have an intimate knowledge of the condi- tions of the particular Industry concerned and who bring to the solution of tho problem good sens* and good-will. I have dwelt at some length on Industrial relations. My country Is highly Industrialized and when ¦uch a State can work out her own salvation without the threat of forcible notion, hut by reason and good-will, she knows that her people are working In the best spirit of democracy and one not likely to surrender their- birth- right to the Communist. Dangers From tho Bight But what of danger from'the extreme Right? That is differ- ent In its origin and In its appeal. Dictatorship of the Right, in Italy and Germany, has been the aftermath of communism. In England I believe the only pos- sibility of the success of fascism would be as the result of an open fight with communism, and of that happening I have little fear. But there might be a danger in a democratic country in certain conditions which have not as yet - arisen. For" instance, picture to. yourself a country In which there* is large scale unemployment. Men look, abroad; they are told there has been such unemployment in Germany, but that since the Nazis came into power it has disap- peared. They read of great na- tional Improvements being car- ried out In Germany and Italy, absorbing vast numbers of unem- ployed, of waste and unhealthy areas being reclaimed and occu- pied, and they begin to contrast what they hear and read of these foreign countries with what they find being done or maybe left un- done at home. If such a state of things arises, hoist the danger signal. You have a mass of men ripe to listen to any one or anything. And, given the man of genius who can make the masses believe that he alone can make the work they need Jf he has a free hand—if you get to that point, you are within sight of- revolution by tho Fascist. You have to answer the question "Is democracy as sufficient as fas- cism?" and the answer depends .upon the leaders of the people and on the people themselves. The world is not safe fPr.-Mi mocracy today. We cannot make our own countries safe for democ- racy by lotting things slide, nor can we educate our peoples by holding up our bands in horror at the actions of totalitarian States. How a country is gov- erned is -its own concern; It is .when the totalitarian country im- poses or tries to Impose Its sys- tem on a people outside its bor- ders that their action then be- comes the concern of all free men. Now when I consider the com-' position of this great gathering in New York this week, I know that by your very presence here you show that you are all eager to help in making your democracy an example to the world of what a demooracy should be. You de- sire it to be great, not only in population and in wealth, but in spirit; • a country in which the light of ordered freedom shines with a clear white light to which the lovers of such freedom may look with hope from every corner of the world. You feel this for your own folk as I do for mine. As the lights are quenched In one country after > another, there Is hope in the world so long as our lamps are trimmed and their rays may be seen penetrating the gloom. What •a responsibility rests on us! The Power of Christianity Many'of* us, as we get older and look baok, come to realize that the motive force of Christianity is the life of the Christian. We can think of Individuals, often in the humblest walks of life, who by their lives, all unconsciously, have strengthened us, given us pur- pose, have made the struggle, the dally struggle of life, seem worth while. And la It not true in the democracy we would all wish to sec? The example of the good' citizen Is the preserving salt. And what power might -not go forth throughput this great land If every one of us here went home, to'our dolly avocations resolved to be good citizens? To be true and faithful servants to the peo- ple? And that with no thought of our own advancement but because we are members one of another, Integral parts of that whole crea- tion which groansth and travall- eth together. Whether there bo war In Europe or not, wars settle nothing;, they unchain lejrfi passions for the years to come, violent as the pas- sions that begat the war itself. But the struggle for the soul of man m go on whether there bo ¦war or not, and, Englishman as I am, I know that In this I speak for you who hear me tonight. We have to show the world that we have Ideals no less than the rul- ers of the totalitarian States; that our Ideals are harder of accom- plishment because they are far higher; they Involve the coopera- tion of men of their own free will endeavoring to work, with' God Himself In the raising of man- kind. In a totalitarian State the will most be surrendered, surren- dered to the will of one fallible man. And no man Is fitted for absolute power over the wills of his fellow men. And I believe that many of these things of which I have been speak- ing are in the minds of many who perhaps are not ready at finding words to express them. I do not know how it may be with you, but I am clear that it Is so with me. I have addressed meetings In England since I was a young man, and throughout England and Scotland and Wales in the last twenty years, and I am not singular In detecting a re- markable change in the post-war audiences. They are not satisfied with the kind of stuff to which they used to listen years ago. They are not amused by mere abuse of the speaker's opponents, by sarcasm, by special pleading and the tricks of tho old school. Vast numbers of our electorate are not attached to a party, and in great mass meetings you get men and women of all parties and of none, and the quiet hear- ing you get Is remarkable. I have had interesting confirma- tion of this from unexpected quar- ters. A Labor friend of mine was discussing this very subject with me not long ago. He has been many years in the House of Com- mons and he represents a strong- ly Labor constituency In a wide industrial area. He sold: "People . wouldn't listen today to the stuff I gave them twenty yean ago. They want solid food." There are, of course, and prob- ably always will be, men who will , play down to Ignorance and preju- * dice, especially at election-times when they get excited, but to mo there ur\something profoundly touching and humbling in a vast crowd, troubled In its mind and prepared to listen to what you have to say. In the belief that you will deal with them honestly and i with sincerity. Perhaps we have ¦nuipli to learn from each other: I. know they have taught me much. It has confirmed my faith In my fellow-countrymen, and my faith that, given peace, we can make a better job of democracy than we have yet done. Now I may have no other op- portunity of speaking to such an American audience as I have to- night, and It is a privilege that I value more than I can express to you In words. I want, therefore, in my closing remarks to empha- size once more a fundamental dif- ference between our Constitu- tions, a difference which In my view Is essential to bear closely in mind. Let me first remind you of a pregnant paragraph of James Bryce, our one-time Ambassador to Washington, who wrote "The American Commonwealth." "The American Commonwealth," he said, "Is no exception to the rule that everything which has power to win the obedience and respect of men must have Its roots deep in the past, and that the more slowly every institution has grown, so much the more endur- ing is It likely to prove ¦ • • there Is a hearty puritan ism in the view of human nature which parades the instrument of 1787. * " " No men wero less revolu- tionary In spirit than tho. heroes of the American Revolution. They made a resolution In the name of Magna Charts and the. Bill of Rights." - f - J / j I was speaking In Tewkesbury Abbey only £ few days euro, ana In the choir of that front Norman church la a small flagstone on which Hague vsjn Inscription In Latin In seven words to Gilbert do Clare, one of the barons who signed Magna Charts. I trans- late those words for .'you: "Mag- na Charts is tho Law; hencefor- ward let the King look out."'' There Is an epitome of English history. England has never tol- erated dictatorship. When the king sought to gather all power Into his hands, he had to look out! —then and. later. And so with the barons and so with the me- dieval church and so with the dictatorship under Cromwell, and so it will always be. Whateverit may call Itself, the thing will never be tolerated by our people. And I rejoice to think that we have lent .you for your groat Fair in New York a copy of that Charta, knowing that It would be an object of reverence to you as it has been to us through the centuries and la today. ~f I American Liberty Safeguarded But when we separated one great change came. Bryce quotes a sentence in his great work from Judge Cooley. "America" says the Judge, "Is not so much an example in her liberty as In the covenanted and enduring secu- rities which are Intended to pre- vent liberty degenerating Into li- cense, and to establish a feeling of trust and repose under a be- neficent government, whoso ex- cellence, so obvious In Its free- dom, is still more conspicuous In its careful provision for perform- ance and stability." I could not find two more apt quotations to Illustrate what I want to say.'Our common consti- tutional growth was like the trunk of a great oak tree, spring- ing from small beginnings. That tree has now two great branches represented by our two great de- mocracies. Your Constitution is a written one, safeguarded against sudden change, more . rigid; ours is unwritten, there- fore more flexible and capable of evolution, and depending on the wisdom of our people to recognize the difference between evolution and revolution. So far, the political Instinct of our people has enabled us to pass through many troublous times In the last 130 years, times of swift change comprising the opening and tho development of what Is often called the Industrial Revo- lution: to pass through them without open violence and with our constitution Intact, our social services have broadened out and developed beyond all knowledge In the two decades since the war. But we have much to do yet in dealing with what Is called the hard case of unemployment and the aftermath of that financial and industrial crisis that came upon us all ton years ago. And the tragedy Is that another war would throw back all our efforts and make further progress Im- possible for a generation. But such experiences are a part of our history. Our little Island has been in the danger zone for two thou- sand years. It war comes. It will find.us as a people united as we have never been before; power- ful in material resources, and be- lieving In our hearts that on the Issue depends ultimately the free- dom of mankind. In such a con- flict we must play our part and to the end. You too have your domestlo problems, in some ways more dif- ficult than ours. No time could be more opportune for this con- ference, for the meeting together of men and women In every walk of life, patriotic and of good .will, eager to spend themselves In the service of their fellow-men. You have it in your power, by your example, to load your people, to Inspire them to work for the Ideals that have animated the greatest Americans through tho generations of your history:' Courage and Faith, Love and Wisdom, those are what wo all need, for In our different ways and with our different responsi- bilities, we are moving forward into a new age. May God give a right judgment in all things.