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Also Presents Mr. Murray Mitchell,
i'r. Raugh,
Far. Kauffman,
2 U.S. War   Department officers.
Mr. Mc Cloy explained that, in conjunction with the Defence Aid Hvlsion,
he had been asked to Investigate the possibilities of rendering some assistance to the
British in securing the technical personnel they were at present trying to recruit into
the C.T.C.
Mr. Hurray Mitchell and I stated the general objectives of our policy, gave a
general description of the status of the Corp3, the recruitment machinery and the results
to date of the recruiting campaign.        *e emphasised the urgency of the problem and
r. Murray Mitchell expressed the view that only the intervention of U.S. Government
Agencies could deal with the problem satisfactorily in relation to the tine factor.
Asked by fcir. I cCloy for our views of the reas ns for the comparatively poor
response we had obtained, it was explained that it was probably a combination of two
factorsi«
(1) that the relatively unattractive wage we were able to offer (this problem
was explained) and
(2) that there was probably not such a wide field of reoruitmont of the versatile
type of skilled craftsman as   might at first seek possible.
Mr* UoCloy suggested, with regard to the wage difficult:, that an immediate
examination should be made of the feasibility of supplementing the rra<*e dFered by the
British in the form of an additional $ payment frozen in the U.S. but at the disposal
of the member for any purpose he desired,
tfr. Raugh indicated that it might bo possible to make Lease/Lend funds available
for this purpose.
With regard to the problem of securing the greatest response in the immediate
future two alternatives were co:sidered to be worth exploring!
(a) the possibility of securing personnel from the Defence Forces of the
United States and
(b) the judiciox s calling up under the Selective Service Act of q- alif led men
from less essential industries and, after a short period of Army Service,
offering then the opportunity to serve in the C.T.C.
Hr, Mo&oy asked that Mr* Hurray Mitchell should circularise our recruiting
agencies in the U.S. with the object of ascertaining their view of the appropriate
wage for the various grades in order to decide the amount of supplement which the U.S.
Goveraiaent should offer.      Concurrently he proposed to have independent enquiries
rade in Fashinston of the rates of wages appropriate in present circumstances in the
skilled trades concerned.
The terras of the non-effective charges (widows and disability pensions) were
considered to be not ungenerous.
The opportunity was also taken to mention the need for technical officers of
the University and College graduate type for service with the Defence Jbrces and the
Supply eepartaents.        r. : cCloy thought that it should bi feasible to extend the
Conant Observer Boher.e to other claesc: and also to deal with the needs of the Supply
3'epartBentn from the sarie source.
19th Kovember. 19/1.